1984 ends with Julia and Winston meeting again, but after they have gone through terrible torture, and find each other some what disgusting. After all that Winston has gone through he’s completely different. Not only does he accept big brother but loves him as the core of his world unconditionally.
The book was made to explain how humanity cannot survive in a totalitarianism world.
Most stories end with a happy ending but Orwell ends with a sad ending to really get his point across to the readers.
Winston wasn’t really a hero because he didn’t change anything and was just another person that needed saving. He sort of tried but didn’t have much effort in it and hardly accomplished anything except writing a journal that discourages big brother, and ended up brainwashed, crippled, and loving big brother.
In the book it deceives so much, and nothing is for certain, so just about anything could be actually happening with the party.
Winston did loose because he completely gave into big brother which gave the enemy everything they want there fore big brother and the party win.
Winston did all that he could, which is very little, and what’s really to blame here is the time he lives in.
The end of 1984 seems straight forward but it isn’t really. One of the things I noticed at the very end was how Winston didn’t die. He wanted to die but it didn’t end with his death. It ended with him thinking about how great big brother is. Maybe them saying about him dying is just another part of the manipulation, because Winston looking forward to his death was one of the things putting him in line. The party has also completely changed Winston. He went from hating big brother to worshiping him unconditionally. Winston is also physically crippled because of the torture. One of the things that was keeping Winston rebelling was lust, which puts Julia above big brother, which the party dislikes. One thing that was a major point for me was that I noticed how the party deceives so much that you really don’t know what is fact or not. My first thought on the party was that it was a government that was trying to keep a country together that was hopelessly in ruins, and using drastic measures. now that you see Winston’s torture you can see that it’s much more elaborate than that. This whole thing that Winston went through could be something that they do to everyone at their weakest times so to mold them into the perfect citizen, since we don’t know for sure if they actually kill the people. Another thing that we talked about in class was how if Winston was really a hero. In my opinion he wasn’t a hero. He did all he could, which is very little since if he had tried to do more he would have just gotten caught sooner and bringing Julia down with him faster. Winston never had the chance to make a difference, since the party is just too strong, and we can only blame the time that he lives in for this.
In our eyes Winston isn’t a hero. He is nothing more than an average person living in Oceania. We see heroes as making a difference or helping something or someone. In this situation Julia is the only one who sees Winston as her hero. Winston didn’t help anyone, didn’t save anyone, and didn’t succeed in anything. He rebelled but it was planned. He was lead into rebellion just to be caught. Which proves rebellion is possible but only for a short amount of time because there are only a few ways to rebel in a society like this and all of them have been monitored or planned just for people to be caught by. The only way you would know how to rebel would be through a path that has been opened for you. Ultimately by and for the party. There for even if you rebel the party would have succeeded by letting you walk into their trap and gaining total and unimaginable power over everyone including Winston. Because after he was “cured” they would have complete control over him. Which explains why the book ends this way. Every one is like Winston which means they all go through this thought process and ultimately the ministry of love. And finally get brainwashed and “cured.” Therefor it ends like this to show that now everyone either dies or lives happily through the lies from now on, having still some control over their brian but it doesn’t matter because they remember the fear and pain of the party so they never rebel again. The purpose for torture is torture, the purpose for persecution is persecution and the purpose for power is power itself!
I think the author ends it this way because I think he wanted to make it so it was different then most books. The ending was very odd, it was kinda scary how they put Winston’s head in a box with rats all inside eating what was blocking his head. The book was not about winston saving everyone it was more about the real truth in society. The end was an argument with winston himself and it was internal. He was trying not to forget everything that he knew.
“We would fold if we went though what he did”
“Would humanity win? Wouldn’t win with these things”
“Did not want it end like all the other stories in past?”
“Really shows how big brother can brainwash an entire community”
“The end of the book is not fun at all”
“Teach you how to live in that country”
I agree with what Bradley and Coltrane said like you cant have a fun community it will always be bad in the end.
Winston sold out of everything that he ever believed in. He did not have the right connections. Winston gave in he stopped. He gave up.
“He does as much as he can but it was not good enough”
“Brotherhood is just there as a decoy”
I think bobby made a great point by saying ” everyone just listens to what the party is saying, but is it really true? ”
I have changed my mind about why the book ended. I believe that winston is a hero because he did everything in his right mind that he could of done. He even took touter for a lot longer than a normal person could take. Winston was a good man and stuck with what he believed in till the very end of the book. It doesn’t matter what you believe in as long as you stick up for it.
I dont know how I feel about the ending of 1984. It is really a depressing ending haha. I am not interpreting the meaning of it currently at the beginning of class. End of class: After discussing in class and hearing a couple opinions on why the book ended this way I dont hear one really satisfying answer but I guess it would make sense think it ended this way to demonstrate the animosity of a totalitarian society or country
*The point of power is just to have power in a totalitarianism society
*Only the elite few highest in leadership have all the luxury and powerThe big brother knows EXACTLY what they are doing -Methods of torture -making life horrible for citizens just increases their own wealth -malnourished person(s) are weaker mentally and physically i think and in that dilapidated and horrible society it might weaken their will for freedom even more if they even had one
In the end I would consider winston a hero because even though he didn’t accomplish anything he still tried and that alone stands out as a heroic move, the fact that he wanted to change the society and help all the people was heroic and he failed though when he cracked but everyone cracks during torture so I guess I cannot blame him.
In real life I don’t know how this would be achieved because the soldiers that would help take over a society or country or world would be the slaves of the leader as well? Unless they became like the thought police?
I think he ended the book this way because this book wasn’t like any other book. The hero wasn’t all high and mighty. There is no savior to rescue Winston and save the story because that isn’t real life. Winston wasn’t going to be strong and resist big brother anymore because that wasn’t him. He’s scrawny, weak, and scared. Winston chose to make Winston the way he was because he is a normal person. He’s not a super alien from krypton, he’s not the super soldier to win World War Two, he is just like us. I bet that if any one of is were put in this position, all the pressure to subdue into big brother, we would give up because I don’t think any of us could take it. So neither could winston.
I think at the end he committed mental suicide. It was easier to get rid of the pain and give up rather then try to fight on because it was hopeless.
The book is made to say the bad things about totalitarism and if he had defeated them then it would be bad. And Winston being subdued was the final nail in the coffin.
This book was a guideline. The things to do and what not to do.
Is Winston a hero?
No because nothing changed for the better
Could he be successful?
What is the true priority of the party?
To keep everything the same forever
Nazi and soviets came close but had the wrong idea
They wanted to make everything better while the party is trying to keep everything the same
He was dead the second obrien got him
I think the party won. They achieved total control and nobody stood a chance. They wiped out the minds of a whole population and Orwell chose this way because he wanted to say why it was so bad. Nobody knows the true meaning of life, it’s one of the things that we may never find out. But I’m pretty sure that it isn’t to have one supreme ruler and everyone to be controlled by him because then why would we be created with free will. It doesn’t matter whether you believe in god, or Buddha, or Allah. Whatever god we come from we all come from the same one. But that’s not the point, the point is that totalitarism is not right. That was the whole point he created this book and why he ended this way. He succeeded in depicting the way that totalitarism sucks. It seems like it would be good but there is only one ruler and the world would eventually become like 1984. That was the whole point of the story and he succeeded.
The book ends with Winston loving big brother. This may have been an ending because this book served as a perpetual warning against anything towards the nature of a totalitarian society and this last line was the final nail in the casket of sorts. I found that the ending implied that no hope was left because another line near the ending read, he had won victory over himself.The ministry of love could imply heaven and finally, he thinks he had reached salvation. The narration at the end changes significantly and Winston speaks like a sedated viewer, seeing what his body does in honor of big brother. At last, the last human on earth was gone and all that was left was big brother. Also, when Winston talks to Julia, he no longer feels anything for her, the love of his life. All of his previous actions to him, in retrospect seem frivolous, trivial and childish. The end to me seems a lot more optimistic that the story, which I find to be unnerving because it shows that living out the party’s lifestyle would indeed bestow upon you a greater joy and purpose in life. It says also,that the long awaited bullet was entering his brain. At first glance, it would seem that he longs for this, and that perspective may be right, but since they made him confess, it should mean that he actually feels remorse. When the other three were at the cafe, there were ambiguous tears in their cheeks. Now we know that the tears were most likely out of joy for being saved by the party. They were Winston.
Repressed society, boot on face, keep them down to protect the oligarchy.
Orwell said to be suspicious of everything and Winston was destined to fail but still sold out.
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